Timeless advice on how to succeed from the makers of The Lego Movie, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, 21 Jump Street, and Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

Phil Lord and Christopher Miller are the power duo behind a number of cultural-defining cinematic booms, including Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, The Lego Movie, 21 Jump Street, and – my favorite movie – Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. Because I’m such a fan of the lastest Spider-flick, I decided to check out this interview they recently did with Joshua Johnson at 1A.

At the end of the interview, Miller gives some advice for a young fan about how to get into animation. Quoting some tips from a teacher of Chuck Jones, he says “you have 10,000 bad drawings inside you, you’ve gotta get them out as quickly as possible.”

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse attempts to capture the realities of diversity in an urban context. It is smart, even existential, while remaining optimistic, family-friendly, and hip.


Adding in his own words, “the more pencil-miles you get, the more practice you get making things, the better you’ll be, and don’t worry about failing. Don’t worry about chasing after something that you think someone else wants to see. Just make things that interest you, that you want to see, and eventually, you’ll get there.”

This is classic advice. It calls forth a similar idea from another illustrator, Stephen McCranie, who is attributed with the quote “The master has failed more than the beginner has ever tried.”

So, from a fellow trier, just keep on going. You got this.